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(Message started by: Chad66 on Apr 1st, 2005, 9:40am)

Title: Under engine tray
Post by Chad66 on Apr 1st, 2005, 9:40am
Hi all,

There's a thread going on on the confidential list regarding under engine trays.

I always thought these were only fitted to the 24V. Is this the case or should all Scorpios have them? My 12V hasn't.

Concensus on the purpose of the tray seems to be to stop water being forced up into the engine compartment and getting at the electrics...any other thoughts?

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by craig on Apr 1st, 2005, 9:47am
i have 1 on my 2.3
and there is 1 on the 24v i also have the use of at the moment

so i think the answer is yes,they should ALL have one..

HTH

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by Paul_Boulden on Apr 1st, 2005, 9:58pm
My 1996 2.9 12v has the undertray

Paul Boulden

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by Snoopy on Apr 1st, 2005, 10:06pm
So does mine

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by howiedintheplace on Apr 1st, 2005, 10:45pm

I would say it is the first part of the car that goes missing when it has work done. A lot of guys simply can not be bothered to refit them or forget. I think all Scorpio's should have them.

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by Paul B on Apr 3rd, 2005, 9:54am
Yes, very easy for it to go missing.

I had a service done last year at a garage which was 'highly recommended'  :-/   When I went to collect the car, I was pacing around part of their workshop as mine wasn't quite ready.
I saw, lying on the workshop floor, an engine under tray. At that point, the workshop manager declared my car finished. I pointed to the tray saying that it looked like mine. But he assured me it was for a Galaxy. Hmm... seemed plausible I suppose.
OK, off home then (about 20 miles) and for the whole journey, I kept picturing that tray in my mind. As soon as I got home, I got underneath to check. Sure enough... the tray was missing!  >:(
I phoned to tell them what they'd forgotten and they apologised and said "Run it back in mate".  All very well, but that meant another 40 mile trip just for that. AND it was raining. And thats not good. I think it keeps a certain amount of spray from getting to some of the components.

Get one on it if you can.

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by SaveTheNight on Apr 3rd, 2005, 10:06am
there has been talk of a second tray ?? ..the clips, holes and cut outs are there ...but has anyone ever seen one ?? ........ STN

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by Paul B on Apr 3rd, 2005, 10:26am
Not seen it myself but as you say, there would be room for one.
After all, this one only covers from front bumper back to the front crossmember.

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by SaveTheNight on Apr 3rd, 2005, 10:30am
Hiya Paul !! ... yes ..unlike the garage you dealt with ... my new lads are always coming and asking where the SECOND tray that came off this car is !! .. cos they can see the clips etc for it .. cries in unison from all around the garage echo out .. THERE ISN'T ONE !! ... maybe one day there will be  ...haha  ... STN

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by Paul B on Apr 3rd, 2005, 10:42am
HA HA!!    Another little project for you then?

Haven't studied it myself, but out of interest how far back does it look like it  should go?

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by Chad66 on Apr 4th, 2005, 1:49pm
Looks like an entry in the 'parts wanted' section required then! ::)

Any ideas how much FMD would be after....bearing in mind it aint April 1st anymore ;D ;D

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by Eddie on Apr 4th, 2005, 6:44pm
REf. Extra tray,I think the early ones were in 2 parts.
I,m pretty sure mine was,until I hit a bollard!
The new one was in one peice,the old one ended up in several peices along with the bumper. ???

THERE, now I,ve admitted it! :-/

eddie

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by admin on Apr 7th, 2005, 5:26pm

on 04/04/05 at 13:49:27, Chad66 wrote:
Looks like an entry in the 'parts wanted' section required then! ::)

Any ideas how much FMD would be after....bearing in mind it aint April 1st anymore ;D ;D


Don't even think about FMD for this one - get one from a breakers and pull off the wet smelly felt that is stuck to it - that just holds water and rots the power steering pipes that lie touching it most of the time. A scrapyard shouldn't charge more than a few pounds.

Steve

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by mr._floppy on Apr 10th, 2005, 2:43pm
The sump tray  recently  saved me a few quid  when ,    due to a sheared retaining bolt ,   the  drive belt  tensioner fell off  in transit.   Had the tray been missing I  would of  had to shell out for a  new pulley and belt.

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by Baz on Apr 10th, 2005, 3:29pm
Theres a couple in at Autosave in Bury near Manchester. The number is on the main site, but ask for Chris as he is the guy I always deal with and he is pretty reasonable. I saw them today when I went for a battery Clamp for Craig!!

Baz

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by VladSoare on May 25th, 2005, 10:09am

Quote:
get one from a breakers and pull off the wet smelly felt that is stuck to it - that just holds water and rots the power steering pipes that lie touching it most of the time.

Steve, are you sure about this? I would like to take mine off, because it's dirty and always wet, but I can't help thinking that maybe it's there for a reason.
Are you sure it's safe to remove it and just keep the plastic part of the undertray?

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by mr._floppy on May 25th, 2005, 11:27am
The good thing about the position of the tray is that  it does not  require removal to  get access  to the sump plug,  this is important  as  your friendly  local  mechanic , who can strip and  assemble a   V8  in an hour ,  NEVER EVER  put it back  correctly. :P

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by john.n on May 25th, 2005, 4:17pm
Personally i dont like them, as they hide any engine drips. I would rather see the drops of oil/water on the ground so that i know there is a leak and can then investigate. But thats just me!! ::)

Title: Re: Under engine tray
Post by VladSoare on May 26th, 2005, 6:29am
The undertray is a good thing. In fact, I think a steel undertray would be even better than a plastic one on rough roads (we have plenty of them around here :)). I have no intention to remove the undertray completely.
It's just the spongy lining that bothers me, because it's dirty, ugly and it's almost always wet. What does it do? Why is it there?
Is it safe to remove it?



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