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(Message started by: Tons_of_fun on May 18^th, 2010, 8:00am)

Title: Rear Window !!!
Post by Tons_of_fun on May 18^th, 2010, 8:00am

Hi all. Since i have had the car the rear o/s window hasnt worked. TBH i have spent most of my time on the paint & body, but am now getting all the little jobs done ;-). Soooooo............ Any suggestions as to why the window might not be working ?? It dosent work off either the rear or front switches. I havent checked the fuses yet but im not sure if each window has a seperate fuse. Any suggestions appreciated. Ta ... Craig :-)

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by tlundkvi on May 18^th, 2010, 8:19am

There can be problems with the loom or a loose connector inside the door (pain to fix, I know), or even the regulator. If both left and right rear door looms are the same (can't see why not) I would test it by taking both doors off, and plugging the other door in to see if it works. Does the switch illuminate on the door and does all central locking etc. work?

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by gozz on May 18^th, 2010, 8:35am

TOF.
The wiring circuit is such that if either the front or rear switches are dodgy for a particular window it won't work.Try swapping a few switches about first,taking note of the terminal positions as they differ,if you find a faulty switch you may resurrect it with a WD40 bath !!
If switches are OK,take the panel off and connect the motor direct to a power supply to test it,reverse the connections to wind it the other way,that of course is what the switches do,hence if one has a faulty terminal no power passes to the other one.
GOZZ.

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Mike H on May 18^th, 2010, 2:56pm

My money's on a bad plug terminal. Problee unplug it and put it back, might start working again. (?)

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Tons_of_fun on May 18^th, 2010, 3:32pm

Thanks chaps. Im kind of hoping for a simple fix ( i should be so lucky ) ;-). I have just poped out for a crafty fag & have tried the global opening / closing, but alas no joy :-( . All windows & roof open except that one :-( :-(. I have a box full of switches so will try that next ( including the rear window isolator ). Any idea if the windows have seperate or communial fuses ?? If that fails then it's panel off time :-o. Just hope it's not the motor !! Thats about the only spare part i havent got ;-)

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by lesterlad on May 18^th, 2010, 7:01pm

on 05/18/10 at 08:35:30, gozz wrote:

TOF.
Try swapping a few switches about first,taking note of the terminal positions as they differ,if you find a faulty switch you may resurrect it with a WD40 bath !!

GOZZ.

Gozz;
I remember your good self mentioning the above to me when I was at your gaff a few weeks ago.
Since then I have had a wander around a scrap yard and a number of window switches(7) jumped into my pocket as I was rummaging around in a Scorpio. (They must have been fearfull of the crusher)http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/118/2/c/_happy__by_CookiemagiK.gif
Having taken note of what you said I inspected the contacts on all the switches and to my surprise they were all in the same position, I have since tried them all on my Scorp and they work on every door even after swapping them about.

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Highlander on May 18^th, 2010, 8:15pm

on 05/18/10 at 15:32:26, Tons_of_fun wrote:

I have just poped out for a crafty fag

Gandalf! - Sir Ian McKellen ;D

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by gozz on May 18^th, 2010, 11:10pm

[quote author=lesterlad link=board=Advice;num=1274166038;start=0#5 date=05/18/10
Having taken note of what you said I inspected the contacts on all the switches and to my surprise they were all in the same position, I have since tried them all on my Scorp and they work on every door even after swapping them about.
[/quote]

It would be handy if mine were all the same,I've got five different configurations !!
GOZZ.

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Tons_of_fun on May 19^th, 2010, 8:10am

Gandalf !!! ? ? ? Nope sorry m8. Dont get it :-( I will however have a pint of whatever your drinking ;-) :-)

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by gozz on May 19^th, 2010, 8:32am

I don't think you would manage a pint of what he has ;)

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Highlander on May 19^th, 2010, 10:42am

on 05/19/10 at 08:10:59, Tons_of_fun wrote:

Gandalf !!! ? ? ? Nope sorry m8. Dont get it :-( I will however have a pint of whatever your drinking ;-) :-)

on 05/18/10 at 15:32:26, Tons_of_fun wrote:

I have just poped out for a crafty fag

Gandalf! - Sir Ian McKellen ;D

Crafty = Magical = Wizard = Gandalf

Fag = homosexual = Sir Ian McKellan = Gandalf

So Crafty fag = Gandalf!

Too many crosswords?? ;D

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Tons_of_fun on May 19^th, 2010, 12:20pm

BARMAN !!!!! I'll have 2 pints of what he's drinking :-) :-). Nice analogy stuart. I must be living in my own little world though ! I had no idea Ian Mckellan was gay !!!

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Albert_Ross on May 19^th, 2010, 7:56pm

3 pints of Creme de Menthe please.

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Mike H on May 20^th, 2010, 3:39pm

With one o' them little umbrellas in it ;D

@ TOF if the front switches don't work and the back switches don't work AND global doesn't work (whatever that is ~ sorry!) then I'm guessing it's not switches.

Most likely motor not turning for some reason, bad plug connection to it etc. Fink you're gonna hafta pull the trim off and have a poke about

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Mike H on May 20^th, 2010, 3:43pm

No it's OK just found out what global closing is ;D

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Mike H on May 20^th, 2010, 3:57pm

OK seems to be fuse 28, 30 Amps, does all the windows. Global closing diagram here:

http://cid-eb36f845ea9b8fb6.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/WIRING%20DIAGRAMS/GLOBAL%20CLOSING.pdf

So just one fuse then

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Tons_of_fun on May 20^th, 2010, 4:42pm

Thanks for the help chaps. I will probably have a look on Sunday. Cant do it saturday as the boss is taking a few of us on a night out Friday ( nope... He didnt learn from what happened at christmas ) :-), so will be in no fit state to do anything on Saturday ;-)

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Mike H on May 20^th, 2010, 8:51pm

Probably a good idea!

And stay off the Creme de Menthe ....

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Tons_of_fun on May 23^rd, 2010, 8:19pm

Sorry guys, no update yet. My drunken idiot of a neighbour has been playing silly b***ers all weekend & parking his car across my side of the drive ( whilst drunk out of his mind ). Have called the police but they need to catch him in the act ( typical ). Will try again next weekend, but have a funny feeling i will be bringing this one to Harewood . Thanks guys, will keep you informed... Craig

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Dave2302 on May 27^th, 2010, 12:00pm

I had a druggy neighbour when I lived down south, who used to do that (park across my drive).

Told him to move it, got abuse, same result as you from plod.....

Shoved his wreck across the road with my land rover, Very Hard Shove lol, he never parked there again :)

Cheers Dave

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Tons_of_fun on May 27^th, 2010, 5:06pm

Dont suppose i could borrow your Landie could i Dave lol :-)

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Dave2302 on May 27^th, 2010, 8:18pm

Any time M8 lol, towballs front and rear and Stainless Bullbar :) :) :)

Title: Re: Rear Window !!!
Post by Tons_of_fun on May 28^th, 2010, 7:58am

Proper job...lol