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(Message started by: bizzay1 on Sep 11^th, 2006, 10:10pm)

Title: abs & traction control
Post by bizzay1 on Sep 11^th, 2006, 10:10pm

The warning lights for both of these come on once I pull away, now I seem to remember reading on here about this before but can't find it now - am I right in thinking this points to an abs sensor fault ?? I must add that I think the wishbones need replacing, would this help cause this problem - it's on a 24v '97 saloon by the way

Title: Re: abs & traction control
Post by howiedintheplace on Sep 11^th, 2006, 10:13pm

It points to rear ABS sensor possible problems.

Either dirty or possible wheel bearing about to fail usally.

Title: Re: abs & traction control
Post by bizzay1 on Sep 11^th, 2006, 10:25pm

thanks for the quick reply, it's in for a pre MOT tomorrow, I've only had it for a couple of weeks and it's still got 2 months MOT, I'll let you all know tomorrow what it fails on along with this new problem

Title: Re: abs & traction control
Post by twinturbo on Sep 11^th, 2006, 10:31pm

if the ABS light is out below 10mph and comes on then you have a rolling sensor fault.

Any one of the four can be at fault, it's a little bit more difficult to find out which than a static fault. but if you can find somone with a code reader that will tell you which one need s sorting.

It may just be a loose or dirty connection, but be prepaird to replace a sensor.

TT

Title: Re: abs & traction control
Post by bizzay1 on Sep 12^th, 2006, 11:34am

Well, I went to take the cossie to the garage today, started off and NO sign of either of these warning lights coming on :)

Dropped it off for a pre MOT and when I got it back the guy said "if that was in for a test today I would have given it a Ticket No Problems" ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: abs & traction control
Post by howiedintheplace on Sep 12^th, 2006, 12:13pm

Well it will probably come back.

So it's either the sensors need a clean or a wheel bearing.

Do some hard driving, braking etc if it comes on again check the rear wheel bearings.

Title: Re: abs & traction control
Post by wickedteen on Sep 12^th, 2006, 6:41pm

just remember if its a wheel bearing you may not know till its too late and your hub gets killed by the bearing exploding, so far it has happened to all four of mine, all in a mater of a month, so now i have four new bearings and new hubs, the hubs are ford only and cost roughly £95 each, the bearings are just patten parts at £25 for front and £50 for rear, so best to get them checked, the only way i found to check them was to take them a part as the dont seem to move like a bearing has gone as they are well pressed in to the hub, good luck

Title: Re: abs & traction control
Post by Bren_K30 on Sep 13^th, 2006, 7:27pm

Had the same thing happen on mine today, but I have become quite a believer in "wait a little while and see what happens next" because with the Scorp being a tempremental beast at times...... must be female.

However mine spends a fair amount of time parked in the garage at work for a few days at a time when I am away. I stopped and turned everything off and when I restarted all clear. Now I am not in any way suggesting that you can ignore it and I WILL be keeping a close eye on the warning lamps.

Sometimes it's worth asking yourself am I jumping in too quick. But I will still be imagining a wheel bearing grinding itself to oblivion because if we didn't care about these unique motors we would not be devoting all the time we do to them.

Title: Re: abs & traction control
Post by kev2scorps on Sep 15^th, 2006, 10:37am

I have had traction control and abs lights light up on my dash also. usually the problem went away after a few miles or after the car has been left parked for a short while. However, on 2 occasions they did not go out! Turned out on one occasion to be just a dirty abs sensor on the rear drivers side. 3 weeks later, same problem, same dirty sensor, but this time it was not road dirt, it appeared greasy. car had been making very slight squealing noises at low speed in first gear, most noticeable in multi-story car parks fo some reason, echos perhaps? This time I removed the hub and roller bearings fell all over the place! Replaced bearing and damaged hub, and all is fine now. I was so shocked by how silent these bearings were, and the condition in which I found them, that I brought a spare hub fitted with new bearings on holiday to France recently. If I broke down, I had the few tools needed to remove and replace the hub.

Title: Re: abs & traction control
Post by howiedintheplace on Sep 15^th, 2006, 10:48am

If you look at the bearings you guys when you take it off, it is the side wall that fails not the actually surface.
This means you have no play & usally no loud noise either.
Bits of metal in your bearing will eventually cause it to go.

Title: Re: abs & traction control
Post by kev2scorps on Sep 15^th, 2006, 11:05am

I agree, when I removed a rear hub and roller bearings fell all over the place, the side wall of both bearings on their smaller diameter was totally gone! There was absolutely no play in the bearing or wheel. Wonder how long it would have driven like this?