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(Message started by: taliban on Oct 28^th, 2006, 1:14pm)

Title: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 28^th, 2006, 1:14pm

dead car! (2.5TD)

changed the headlight bulbs yesterday, started car, new blue bulbs great, everything ok, washed car, set alarm as normal.
this morning, unlocked from remote, key in ignition, nothing lights up on dashboard? turn the key, starter motor turns, engine doesnt fire up, still no dashboard lights. interior lights work including dash light, sidelights work, not dipped beam, leccy seats work, radio works, windows dont, chime works to say lights on.
not too sure what fuse to check, but checked 80amp main fuse, glow plug fuse and a few others, all seem fine, cant check relays, dont know how too and dont have any spare to swap.
any ideas?

i washed the car and it rained through the night, but battery cover in place and the fuse boxes are dry internally....

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 28^th, 2006, 1:24pm

Still sounds like water in one or both fuseboxes.

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 28^th, 2006, 1:25pm

it does to me too, but surely that'd blow a fuse or two?

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 28^th, 2006, 1:55pm

have now checked every single fuse, all ok.....

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 28^th, 2006, 2:07pm

on 10/28/06 at 13:25:34, taliban wrote:

it does to me too, but surely that'd blow a fuse or two?

As far as I know, usually not. The water makes connections the copper plates in the box, but the resistance should still be too high to blow a fuse (keeping the current down).

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 28^th, 2006, 2:25pm

ah ha, i see, right, battery is now out ready to go on charge. battery tray suprisingly good, no corrosion etc, battery area cleaned and dried, copious amounts of wd40 sprayed all round fuse boxes etc. will charge battery overnight and see what transpires in the morning.
will now go shopping by motorbike, was going to cancel my shopping trip, but now have to go to a jewellers to see how much a new glass is for my sector chronograph after i just chipped it removing the battery........ :'(

what a day so far, thank god my team west ham arent playing till tomorrow, they'd only lose......

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Highlander on Oct 28^th, 2006, 2:34pm

Fuel cut off switch? fusebox multiplug seated properly?

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 28^th, 2006, 2:40pm

checked the multiplug, thats fine, didnt check the cut off switch though, job for tomorrow lol

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 28^th, 2006, 2:56pm

i do blame cossie though, he's put a curse on those bulbs i swiped from under his nose...........

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Simmo on Oct 28^th, 2006, 3:28pm

The fuses for the dipped beams and for the windows are in the central (drivers side) fuse box. Fuse 4,5,25 and 26. Is the connector properly seated?. Has a connector been disturbed in the engine bay whilst dealing with the bulb change?.

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by cossieguy on Oct 28^th, 2006, 5:19pm

on 10/28/06 at 14:56:42, taliban wrote:

i do blame cossie though, he's put a curse on those bulbs i swiped from under his nose...........

Blast, you've seen through my cunning plan ::)

Seriously though, sorry to hear of your problems, my bulbs are due on Monday not sure wether to fit them now!
Good luck,
Guy.

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 28^th, 2006, 6:58pm

the bulbs are actually very good cossie, and everything worked when i went to bed, so it does sound like water ingress. battery out and on charge now, might be worth me taking the fuse boxes out to clean and dry them properly.....

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 29^th, 2006, 1:42pm

right then battery charged, fuse box bays cleaned, hoovered, both areas dried with ex wifes hairdryer (she did have some uses ::)). at first still the same symtoms, but car fired up under compression, was really rattly for 20 seconds then smoothed out and as it did i got the dash board back, then the windows, then indicators, rear lights, rear fog lights, air con, but no front lights at all except indicators and no wipers???

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 29^th, 2006, 1:49pm

just fired her up again and the dashboards gone again......i give up :'(

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 29^th, 2006, 2:02pm

Triple check the fusebox connectors again. They can seem like they are seated properly when in fact they aren't.

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Simmo on Oct 29^th, 2006, 2:06pm

Just what I was going to say. Have a read of THIS (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1161073691;start=0#0). In particular reply no 6. The symptoms are so similar there has to be a connection. (No pun intended !). ;)

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 29^th, 2006, 2:34pm

right, the current result is everything works except the front lights and wipers. i've now got other stuff to do so shes getting parked up, maybe she needs another day or two to dry out fully?
some good has come of it though, my front puddle lights now work ::)

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 29^th, 2006, 2:39pm

right, i'll quickly re check the multi plug.......

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 29^th, 2006, 2:50pm

i luuuurve you guys!
checked the multiplug and noticed that the rear lugs were not seated properly.
now everything works!!! including all puddle lights!!!!!!!!!
and the fuse box areas had the clean out they needed........
SORTED!!!!!!

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 29^th, 2006, 2:54pm

no to celebrate with crumpets, lurpak and copious amounts of homemade plum walnut and brandy jam......... :P

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Simmo on Oct 29^th, 2006, 3:11pm

Just post your address ...........we're on our way!!. ;D. Glad you're sorted. ;) Highlander will probably prefer a 'Malt'!. :)

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 29^th, 2006, 3:32pm

I'll be on the next plane, a glass of malt please 8)

Seriously though, glad to hear it worked out!

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by cossieguy on Oct 29^th, 2006, 3:34pm

on 10/29/06 at 14:50:49, taliban wrote:

Blast! Will have to find something to hex your car that the boys on here can't figure out! ;)

I'll get you next time my lovely }{

On a more serious note glad to hear everything is working.
Guy.

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 29^th, 2006, 4:00pm

errrrrr, dont have any malt, cant stand whiskey, got some spiced gin though, and the dregs of a bottle of woods.....

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 29^th, 2006, 4:36pm

You obviosly haven't tasted a glass of the Balvienie single barrel (http://www.thebalvenie.com/range/singlebarrel_15yo.html) ;)

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 29^th, 2006, 4:41pm

kj, i've never been able to drink whiskey apart from glayva which is more of a liquer, the smell of it makes me feel sick....

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 29^th, 2006, 4:43pm

Oh well, your loss ;D

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by mr._floppy on Oct 29^th, 2006, 5:08pm

So, to recap, I'm slow on the uptake, :-[ what caused the original problem again ?

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by taliban on Oct 29^th, 2006, 5:35pm

i can only put it down to water ingress floppy, next to the main fuse box between the bodywork was a mass of leaves, twigs, moss etc which was all very damp.
the thing i find strange is ford know about the problem hence the battery cover, but theres no cover for the main fuse box?

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 29^th, 2006, 9:41pm

I've ordered 300 bags of silica gel to put in the fuseboxes, hopefully that will keep them dry for a while ;)

Title: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by ferretmobile on Oct 30^th, 2006, 4:16pm

I have been reading this post with interest and thought all along that it was the multiplug seating.............cos the same thing happened to me two weeks ago. RE, NO LIGHTS!
When the mention of no lights and wipers came up, hmmm. I know this one I thought.
But I reckon that the first problem was water ingress dur to washing. I have found that if the car faces slightly up hill, water can cause missfiring or non-start. Been there, done that. But as a precaution now I spray the electrics with WD40 after its had a d**ned good thrashing with the bucket and sponge.
Also as a further precaution, check that the drain holes around the NS fusebox/ battery are clear of leaves and cack, particulally if you park up near trees. I discovered to my horror that I had around half a pint of water swilling around this area due to a blocked hole.........ooh matron :-*
p.s. mines a glenfiddich, pure entertainment in a glass.