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(Message started by: armatec on Nov 26^th, 2006, 2:16pm)

Title: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by armatec on Nov 26^th, 2006, 2:16pm

ok guys ,, im getting desperate..
just put 2.5 ltrs of dextron 3 in the box to bring it up to level.. my problem is this ,,
i seem to have no neutral at all... i carnt move the car as theres a car 3 feet in front of me and reverse does nothing ?? this is how it works ... (or rather dont ... ) Park = foot down and she trys to go forwards ..
reverse =no movment at all BUT foot down , engine only goes to 2000 rpm..??

Neutral = she tries to pull forwards like it is in drive...
Drive = tries to pull forward....

2 = tries to pull forwards ......

1 = tries to pull forwards ....

so i hope you can see my problem.. what could it be ?? AND i need to move the car about 10 foot back so its outside my house ?? .. when the car in front moves tomorrow , if i try and drive it round and come in from the top, will it move ?? if not ,is there any way i can get it in neutral, or better still , reverse ??
plz guys ,,, i need some help here ..lol
many thanks
sad kev ???

Title: Re: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by Highlander on Nov 26^th, 2006, 4:14pm

Is it definitely filled to the correct level?
the gear linkage ok and not stiff or broken?
If you are desperate to move it you could use a large trolley jack under the rear just enough to lift the wheels or disconnect the propshaft?
Or remove the plugs to stop compression and try an push it

Title: Re: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by harry.m1byt on Nov 26^th, 2006, 4:36pm

I know next to nothing about auto-boxes, however....

Apart from the reverse, it sounds to me as if the linkage between gear stick and gearbox has broken/bent/gone out of adjustment. Is the reverse position really different from the others? Does the motion of the gear stick itself feel different to normal?

Title: Re: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by keithtcs on Nov 26^th, 2006, 6:00pm

Hi
It maybe a daft question but was the box ok before you changed the oil ?????
cheers Keith

Title: Re: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by Highlander on Nov 26^th, 2006, 6:28pm

I think it was dry according to the other thread..

Title: Re: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by cscars1 on Nov 26^th, 2006, 9:48pm

i believe the auto box takes at least 8.5 litres off auto transmission fluid (ATF) oil from empty
have you changed the box or did it run out of oil

Title: Re: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by armatec on Nov 27^th, 2006, 4:09pm

one last question.. as some of you may have read from this and my other posts on this problem can you please tell me this as i think im giving up on this gearbox...
as the car seems to have drive .. do you think it would drive the 200 yrds i need to turn it around and park it outside my house?
many thanks in advance
kev

Title: Re: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by Highlander on Nov 27^th, 2006, 5:23pm

Easier to push it back the 10 feet than take the risk of it getting stuck 200yards up the road i would think. did you check the oil level??

Title: Re: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by armatec on Nov 27^th, 2006, 6:52pm

oil level was ok yesterday when i checked it ... ive just got no neutral or reverse ... everything else wants to drive .. including neutral ..??

many thanks kev

Title: Re: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by TiberiuS on Nov 27^th, 2006, 6:54pm

Hello Kev.

Does it thump around in gear ot just not respond? The one time I had an autobox run dry on me it thumped around in gear and juddered like a tractor trying to take up drive, check the level again and see if it's still up. Sounds like a bad linkage or otherwise the box has been damaged by running dry. The worst thing you can do is keep revving it to try moving it, will kill the autobox for sure. If it won't move then get help.

If it were me I'd try it in drive and deal with it if and when it got stuck, otherwise it's going to sit there until the end of time ;)

Good luck :)

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by armatec on Nov 29^th, 2006, 9:41pm

hi all.. update..

just drove the car and she drives beautiful... in 1,2,D,AND N??
the car drives perfect but N Drives ... i still have no neutral anywhere (it feels like drive) reverse does nothing and park does nothing but the engine will not rev above 2000.??

any ideas anyone what could this be?

Title: Re: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by Dave on Nov 29^th, 2006, 10:51pm

Ello ello. What about this:

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/autotrans/TransRangSens.pdf

Title: Re: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by Dave on Nov 29^th, 2006, 10:53pm

And this for a possible selector rod fault:

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/autotrans/GearSelector.pdf

And this to adjust the selector rod:

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/autotrans/SelectorAdjust.pdf

Title: Re: autobox... urgent advice needed
Post by Dave2302 on Dec 4^th, 2006, 12:10am

Hi Kev,

Just back from Scotland.

Bad news mate, where it was low on oil the forward clutch has melted and is permanently engaged, hence forward drive in N & P and a bind up, (forward and reverse engaged at same time), in R. A bind up is a locked transmission, which is why your engine only goes to 2000 cos thats the end stall speed of the converter.

New / Rebuilt box and converter time I'm afraid mate, :'( , and make sure the oil cooler lines are flushed so as not to contaminate the new box with busted bits !!

Regards,

Dave