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(Message started by: drawlings on Dec 29^th, 2006, 1:45pm)

Title: New Cossie won't start
Post by drawlings on Dec 29^th, 2006, 1:45pm

Hi all, just brought a new cossie (97). I went to pick it up but it just won't start. The car had been sat there for 3 to 4 weeks.
I tried to jump start the car cos the battery was dead, but I was getting a ticking noise (best way i can describe it), which I think it was coming from the starter motor.

I am not sure if this means the battery is no good or the starter motor needs replacing.

Any ideas please let me know

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by scorpio_man on Dec 29^th, 2006, 1:55pm

hi there

have you checked the voltage of the battery? did the dash neddles flick round?

hth

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by drawlings on Dec 29^th, 2006, 2:07pm

I have not checked the voltage of the battery, and yes the dash needles did flick around.

Also when I was trying to start the car, it sounded like it was not even trying. Just the ticking noise as discribed before

Thanks

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by scorpio_man on Dec 29^th, 2006, 2:13pm

hi there

sounds like a flat battery to start with. give it a charge or a jump start and see how you go.

hth

btw, these cars take a lot of energy to fire up.

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by solarpanel on Dec 29^th, 2006, 2:22pm

most likely to be the starter stuck as he said that he had tried a jump start....

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by drawlings on Dec 29^th, 2006, 2:23pm

Cheers Scorpio_man, I thought it maybe a flat battery, but after 15 mins with a booster battery attached it still did not wanna know. If you think it may still be a battery problem then I will I will change the battery and see if that makes any difference

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by drawlings on Dec 29^th, 2006, 2:25pm

hey solarpanel

any easy way of unsticking the starter mortor. like a good kick or something

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by Kjetil S on Dec 29^th, 2006, 2:53pm

A slight tap with a small hammer should probably work

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by drawlings on Dec 29^th, 2006, 3:28pm

I am not sure where the starter motor is on these cars, I remember from previous old cars, that if you stick the car in neutral and push it forwards and backwards it can sometimes release the starter motor. Can I apply the same theory to the scorpio

Cheers

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by Kjetil S on Dec 29^th, 2006, 3:35pm

Not sure about the cossie, but on the 16v it's on the (UK) drivers side, at approx two o clock (when looking forward) just in front of the gearbox

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by scorpio_man on Dec 29^th, 2006, 4:11pm

hi there

you can't push it back and forth as there's no gears (auto) ;)

you might be able to hit from below. i tried from above on my 2.3, but too much stuff was in the way. cossie can only have more in the way, i would think.

hth

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by solarpanel on Dec 29^th, 2006, 7:25pm

starter is on passenger side you can hit it from under the car not to hard,you can also bypass the solenoid by shorting across the large terminals with a screwdriver etc,be carefull

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by drawlings on Dec 30^th, 2006, 9:20am

Thanks for your help guys, I will look in to this.

Have a happy new year

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by Highlander on Dec 30^th, 2006, 4:37pm

I'd still go with the dud battery theory, I've worked on a few that wouldnt start EVEN with a pair of high quality jump leads and a good jumper battery until the cars own battery is replaced with a good one.

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by Trommern on Dec 31^st, 2006, 10:35am

Hi,

had the following mishap with my 95 manual gear Scorpio yesterday:

Hit the starter while car was in gear, and park brake fully engaged. Allthough only for a split second, a burnt smell quickly came through the air inlets, and the starter was dead! No ticking or any other sound could be heard upon turning the key again, at least as far as I can recall.

Fortunately I was parked in a hill, and managed easily to roll-start.

Seems quite obvious the starter burnt because of the strain, but could it be something else? And shouldn't it have a circuit breaker to prevent this? As far as I can see from the manual, only automatic gear models have the R11 starter inhibitor realy, which may do something of the kind? Or I'm I wrong? ???

Would appreciate any comments!

-
Harald

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by Kjetil S on Dec 31^st, 2006, 1:22pm

Starter inhibitor should prevent the car from starting in gear, iirc

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by Trommern on Dec 31^st, 2006, 3:03pm

Even on a manual gear version? And if so, how can I make the starter work again?

-
Harald

Title: Re: New Cossie won't start
Post by Kjetil S on Dec 31^st, 2006, 4:32pm

No only on the auto afaik.