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(Message started by: ALAN on Aug 21^st, 2008, 1:48pm)

Title: Locked out
Post by ALAN on Aug 21^st, 2008, 1:48pm

Could any one help please, i have disconected the battery as it was flat and have now found out that i cant get into the car. Everything is locked, boot, bonnet etc, i have the keys but nothing works, apart from breaking a window is there anything else i could try, thanks again.

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by JimmyJaffa on Aug 21^st, 2008, 4:26pm

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1216886490

there is away via drivers door.

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by Snoopy on Aug 21^st, 2008, 4:57pm

If it is dead locked the above thread wil be of no use ..in which case email or pm me for a method ...

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by ALAN on Aug 22^nd, 2008, 11:34pm

Thanks got into car now, before though the car just stopped on me and that is why i thought the battery was flat, now when i try and start the car nothing happens it does not fire or anything, the clock and rev counter go mad and that is all, does anyone know what is happening? :(

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by v4-max aka Cheekyboy1 on Aug 22^nd, 2008, 11:42pm

:( NEEDLES GOING MAD ARE A USUAL SIGN OF A DUFF BATTERY TRY JUMPING IT FROM ANOTHER CAR, IF IT STARTS THEN BATTERY IS FLAT, and probably needs replacing, there have been numerous reports on the site of bateries dieing over night in particuar halfords bats.

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by ALAN on Aug 22^nd, 2008, 11:51pm

Thanks i will try and jump start it tomorrow, i will let you know if it works, thanks again.

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by ALAN on Aug 23^rd, 2008, 4:59pm

Hi, bought some jump leads today but the car is still the same. needles go mad but car does not start or fire or anything. ???

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by TiberiuS on Aug 23^rd, 2008, 6:51pm

Hello Alan.

Are you sure you didn't miss one of the small leads when you reconnected the battery? Many people done this in the past and got some strange faults because of it.

No start could be a lot of things, when you turn the key do you hear any relays click?

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by ALAN on Aug 23^rd, 2008, 7:41pm

No i dont hear any relays click, the car was playing up before i took the battery off, i was driving it and the battery light started flashing and the overdrive light started to flash and then the car stopped.

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by Jonnycab on Aug 24^th, 2008, 2:05am

Going on what Tiberius said.....check that the small lead going to the battery negative is nice & tight. If this lead is not securely connected then all kinds of problems can occur :)

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by ALAN on Aug 24^th, 2008, 1:51pm

Hve checked the leads they are all tight, tried to start the car , sometimes i get just a noise from the battery, othertimes i get noise from the battery and it turns on but doesnt fire, othertimes i get nothing no sound what so ever.

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by Simmo on Aug 24^th, 2008, 7:35pm

It sounds as though it is a battery fault. Have you tried replacing the battery. These cars need a vast amount of power to start them, even though the engine will sometimes turn over. :)

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by ALAN on Aug 24^th, 2008, 8:17pm

Do you konw if there is a way of checking the battery before i buy one as i have heard they are quite expensive, thanks.

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by gozz on Aug 24^th, 2008, 9:58pm

ALAN.
Check the electrolyte with a hydrometer to ascertain whether or not all cells are roughly equal,if they are equally low then a recharge is required,if they are fairly high a high rate discharge test should be carried out at a battery sellers premises,if one cell is low it is dead,and the battery needs replacing.A battery hydrometer is not expensive,and is a'must have'a high rate discharge tester costs more,and you are as well to let someone carry out the test.A battery is about £50.00
GOZZ.

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by ALAN on Aug 26^th, 2008, 7:40pm

Had battery checked, says its fine, got an electrician looking at it now but he isnt having any luck either, dont know what else to do, any suggestions welcome, thanks

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by Snoopy on Aug 27^th, 2008, 8:26am

try pulling a few of the relays , one at a time especially the ones for the starting system.
ALSO have a look at the main feed links ... all the fuse/relay details are in the handbook .

Title: Re: Locked out
Post by Highlander on Aug 27^th, 2008, 1:56pm

on 08/23/08 at 19:41:37, ALAN wrote:

Definitely wiring, possibly I'd be looking at either the ignition switch or more likely the gearbox loom.
The gearbox loom can short out and prevent the car from starting or even turning over sometimes by fooling it into thinking the car is in gear and therefore inhibiting the starter.

I know this isnt recommmended or particularly safe but what i did with mine until i got it sorted was to leave the ignition on, Selector at P and the handbrake on and short the starter terminals with a spanner. it started that way every time.