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(Message started by: Paul-Minter on Jun 19^th, 2016, 1:34pm)

Title: Another one to test your knowledge on no start!
Post by Paul-Minter on Jun 19^th, 2016, 1:34pm

Following on from my water hose and pump problems this is what is happening now:
O/D keeps coming on and off, the revs shoots up as if the clutch is slipping then comes in with a thump, when stopped would not start, the ignition stays on until I jiggle the auto gear shift, managed to start by jiggling the auto shift drove home with the speedo not working, back on drive and will not start again!
Thinking that water has got into the fuse boxes I have treated them with WD40 and changed the start inhibitor relay R11. The Question is, is there a connection that could be causing trouble between the gear shift and auto box?
Look forward to hearing from you lovely guys
::)

Title: Re: Another one to test your knowledge on no start
Post by amigafan2003 on Jun 19^th, 2016, 2:34pm

I'd be checking the wiring loom in the engine bay for degradation as well, especially the part of the loom that runs through the "v" with the water pipes.

Title: Re: Another one to test your knowledge on no start
Post by Paul-Minter on Jun 22^nd, 2016, 11:54am

There is no obvious degradation of the loom, but I have gone over all of the loom with WD40 even the parts that is wrapped up in the casing and in particular the Central Fuse Box as I firmly believe water has got in somewhere, as it is a dry day I have now left the bonnet open, will let you know if I succeed!

Title: Re: Another one to test your knowledge on no start
Post by Simmo on Jun 22^nd, 2016, 2:08pm

Water getting in to the fuse boxes is usually caused by (a) no battery cover (b) debris blocking the drain holes in the bulkhead and thus preventing water getting away into the engine bay. The passenger side (auxiliary) box is particularly vulnerable without a battery cover. Behind the fuse box is a very large grommet which carries all the cables into the interior and the CCM, behind the glove box. Is there any sign of water getting in there? Usually manifests itself on the passenger side carpet. IF water builds up under the Auxiliary box and the grommet is not seated correctly it will run in to the car and over the CCM...not a good thing!
If you want to get to the battery etc have a read of This article (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/battery.htm) :)

Title: Re: Another one to test your knowledge on no start
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Jun 22^nd, 2016, 2:39pm

Also check the condition of the wiring loom which goes down to the gearbox.

Title: Re: Another one to test your knowledge on no start
Post by Paul-Minter on Jun 23^rd, 2016, 12:59pm

Hi Guys, I am now up and running thank you all for your input.
The battery area and aux fuse box was well protected, but I still believe there was a problem with the gear shift, I probably should have taken taken the center console out or got underneath and sprayed the loom to the auto box, but I fed the WD40 pipe in alongside the shaft of the gear shift which may have done the trick.
Shall be donating best regards Paul

Title: Re: Another one to test your knowledge on no start
Post by Simmo on Jun 23^rd, 2016, 2:53pm

Good to know you are sorted Paul :)

You might like to look at This page (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/autotrans/SelectorAdjust.pdf) The mechanism here is known to seize up and it just may be that the WD has done the job BUT a proper look might save further problems. ;)

Title: Re: Another one to test your knowledge on no start
Post by Pegasus on Jun 24^th, 2016, 8:42am

You seem to have it sorted but another cause of gears slipping then thumping into gear (esp when starting from/in cold) is low auto box oil.

Title: Re: Another one to test your knowledge on no start
Post by Paul-Minter on Jun 28^th, 2016, 11:56am

Finally all my problems have been resolved now as I have had an accident and the insurance company want to write the vehicle off due to availability of parts, (face-lift bumper and headlights) this is a sad day as the accident was not my fault as luckily I had a camera in the car that has cleared me of blame.
EVERYBODY PLEASE GET YOURSELVES A CAMERA, easy to fit on the windscreen and they are only about £30
I just hope the payout will enable me to purchase another Scorpio!
So goodbye for now Paul

Title: Re: Another one to test your knowledge on no start
Post by Simmo on Jun 28^th, 2016, 1:35pm

Why not negotiate to buy the 'wreck'? You'll find a bumper and headlights no problem surely? :(

Title: Re: Another one to test your knowledge on no start
Post by Paul-Minter on Jun 28^th, 2016, 3:06pm

Yes I will try to retrieve the car, even if I break it for parts that are getting ever rarer ???

Title: Re: Another one to test your knowledge on no start
Post by Glyn on Jun 28^th, 2016, 11:12pm

Paul, if you are successful with the insurance company, let me know as I have recently had parts from a very helpful guy breaking an estate, he might still have it.
There are a few being broken on ebay.
Glyn