Author |
Topic: how hot/ had diagnostic done (Read 2152 times) |
|
bootiful-scorpios
Full Member
ex 2.9 24v
Posts: 560
|
 |
how hot/ had diagnostic done
« on: May 7th, 2006, 4:16pm » |
 Quote  Modify
|
took the car only to the shop and back about a mile and a half , and the engine and surrounding just seem to be getting very hot but car not showing over heating on temperture gauge , is this normal i hve not noticed the hot ness like this before . ?
also car is hveing trouble engaging its gears on the first start up of day at first she will go into reverse then into drive then when i go to reverse out of drive nothing happens , so i hve to move the leaver till i feel the gear engage as i feel a slight drop when she finaly get there then she is fine from then on for the rest of the day ,
i hve checked the oil and it is a nice red colour and there is no black bits in it , what could this be ?
|
|
 IP Logged |
|
|
|
bootiful-scorpios
Full Member
ex 2.9 24v
Posts: 560
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #1 on: May 8th, 2006, 5:42pm » |
Quote Modify
|
today went on a short trip opened bonnet when got home as while i was out it had a huge heat haze on the bonnet , it is runing so hot where the lights sit they hve the rubber abouve them i could not touch it it was so hot , and the heat coming off the engine was like heat you feel from burning coal , can any one tell me if this is normal please .
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Matt
Senior Member
Manual 24v
Posts: 2816
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #2 on: May 8th, 2006, 5:58pm » |
Quote Modify
|
hi bootiful-scorpios
do you have a cosworth model? cosworth engines run very hot through design, however id have the cooling system checked, open the bonet and run the engine with the car stationary, wait untill the car reaches normal temp and check wether the cooling fans are switching in and out
matt 
|
|
IP Logged |
 
FDS2000 Scans - Birmingham
|
|
|
Atlantic_blue
Full Member
I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 142
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #3 on: May 8th, 2006, 5:58pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Hi
Sounds like the cats are blocked, time for new ones 
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
bootiful-scorpios
Full Member
ex 2.9 24v
Posts: 560
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #4 on: May 8th, 2006, 6:06pm » |
Quote Modify
|
on May 8th, 2006, 5:58pm, Matt wrote:hi bootiful-scorpios
do you have a cosworth model? cosworth engines run very hot through design, however id have the cooling system checked, open the bonet and run the engine with the car stationary, wait untill the car reaches normal temp and check wether the cooling fans are switching in and out
matt |
|
it is a cosworth yes , how an earth dont it melt the wires  i will check the cooling fans in a bit but i think they are working as car not over hearting on the temp dial , but even the wings are so hot .sally
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
bootiful-scorpios
Full Member
ex 2.9 24v
Posts: 560
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #5 on: May 8th, 2006, 6:07pm » |
Quote Modify
|
on May 8th, 2006, 5:58pm, Atlantic_blue wrote:Hi
Sounds like the cats are blocked, time for new ones |
|
could the heat be a sign of this?
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Matt
Senior Member
Manual 24v
Posts: 2816
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #6 on: May 8th, 2006, 6:18pm » |
Quote Modify
|
hey
possible, i remember reading somewhere of a failing cat and it caused it to glow red, go for a quick run and look under the car and look at the exhaust system, a heat wave or a glowing cat could possible be a failed cat (if it were blocked then i think the engine would be acting weird as it wouldnt be able to get rid of the gasses)
it was on the main site somewhere, i'll have a look through it again and get back to you
matt 
|
|
IP Logged |
FDS2000 Scans - Birmingham
|
|
|
Matt
Senior Member
Manual 24v
Posts: 2816
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #8 on: May 8th, 2006, 7:59pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Quote:Catalytic Meltdown
Recently a new owner collected his nice low-mileage Cosworth from his car dealer. During a long journey and a week away from home his engine became increasingly erratic, misfiring badly, and worsening every day until the car was almost undriveable and he saw a catalyst glowing red hot at the end of a journey. The owner eventually found that the dealer had pressure-washed the engine bay and water had filled the spark plug housings, shorting out the HT and caused the serious misfire.
The effect of a high speed misfire is that unburnt petrol vapour covers the catalyst washcoat, which is then ignited by the next firing cylinder, and the temperature of the washcoat can be increased by 800°C, which is what happened to this catalyst and why he saw it glowing red hot. It will be a miracle if the catalyst - and the HO2S sensors, which are based on similar technology - have survived intact. Catalysts at £300 a time and HO2S sensors at £100 - that is bad news. In his case his dealer has apparently put his hands up and will meet the cost of the new parts - we hope. |
|
this is what i found on the main page, i dont think it helps you with your problem though 
|
|
IP Logged |
FDS2000 Scans - Birmingham
|
|
|
bootiful-scorpios
Full Member
ex 2.9 24v
Posts: 560
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #9 on: May 8th, 2006, 8:43pm » |
Quote Modify
|
thanks for that matt,
i even noticed that the bonnet strike plate was very hot today not able to touch it hot , do you think that is normal?
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Atlantic_blue
Full Member
I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 142
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #10 on: May 9th, 2006, 4:33am » |
Quote Modify
|
It has all the signs of the cats failing. It will not be cheap to repair.
A large wallet/purse is required.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
john_smiffy
Junior Member
I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 94
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #11 on: May 9th, 2006, 1:37pm » |
Quote Modify
|
dont they have 2 cats on the 24v engine
twice the price
|
|
IP Logged |
cheers
|
|
|
Matt
Senior Member
Manual 24v
Posts: 2816
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #12 on: May 9th, 2006, 1:40pm » |
Quote Modify
|
hi
yes the 24v cossies have 2 cats, one for each down pipe
unlikley that both have failed
|
|
IP Logged |
FDS2000 Scans - Birmingham
|
|
|
john_smiffy
Junior Member
I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 94
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #13 on: May 9th, 2006, 1:52pm » |
Quote Modify
|
is this is the one
|
|
IP Logged |
cheers
|
|
|
bootiful-scorpios
Full Member
ex 2.9 24v
Posts: 560
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #14 on: May 9th, 2006, 7:49pm » |
Quote Modify
|
yes thats the one my car hve with 2 cats ,
and 1 of the cats seem to be more expensive than the other one from where ive looked so far ,
to day the car did not get hot on a short trip to the vet , i felt the excaust and it isnt a very strong blow blowing out of that , also the blowing noise i hear under load did sound a bit more like a rattle today,
so it must be getting a blockage now how can i tell wot cat it is ?
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
john_smiffy
Junior Member
I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 94
|
|
Re: how hot
« Reply #15 on: May 9th, 2006, 9:08pm » |
Quote Modify
|
you could try this product its called cataclean ive used it and its good you can get it from good car shops about £15
http://www.systemproducts.com/
|
|
IP Logged |
cheers
|
|
|
bootiful-scorpios
Full Member
ex 2.9 24v
Posts: 560
|
|
Re: how hot/ had diagnostic
« Reply #16 on: May 10th, 2006, 5:10pm » |
Quote Modify
|
today took the car for a diagnostic check he said cats were fine ,
but he did find that the engine is showing that its runing at 32 and hed said the engine is way hotter than that ! and he said the trouble is in the engine coolant tep sens, the one that give imformation to the ecu he said its not working ! and making the car run rich as the car think its cold,
can i hve some advise  on fitting this please ,
ford had 1 in stock
i cant seem to find about it on site
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Simmo
Administrator
I'm an OAP !
Posts: 5508
|
|
Re: how hot/ had dianostic done
« Reply #17 on: May 10th, 2006, 5:31pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Go to this page and scroll down to the ECT then look in the left hand list for another page about it. Its just a screw in sensor. http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/ccmonitor.htm.
|
|
IP Logged |
Now I'm an OAP
|
|
|
bootiful-scorpios
Full Member
ex 2.9 24v
Posts: 560
|
|
Re: how hot/ had dianostic done
« Reply #18 on: May 10th, 2006, 6:09pm » |
Quote Modify
|
cant seem to see a pic of where its located on now its on the top some where ?
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Matt
Senior Member
Manual 24v
Posts: 2816
|
|
Re: how hot/ had dianostic done
« Reply #19 on: May 10th, 2006, 6:17pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Hey
the scorpio cd i have is telling me it's componant B10 on the pic below
|
|
IP Logged |
FDS2000 Scans - Birmingham
|
|
|
|
Home
Help
Search
Members
Login
Reply
Send Topic
Print