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kyanther
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radio probs and water leak
« on: Oct 16th, 2006, 6:41pm » |
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hello all im new to the site and scorpio's just picked up car and am happy with her apart from a few niggles that i'm hopping you can help with. car is a 95 N reg 2.9 ford scorpio ultima cosworth, with the 2007 radio, stalk on column and cd changer.
prob 1 :- remote stick not functioning at all, and cd changer not working. cd has power to it as holder comes out when ejected. radio does not pick up cd at all. privious owner said that this all happened after he left lights on and ran battery down he then went on internet to get codings are there different ones for different radio's? oh he was also am radio enthusiast
prob 2 :- water leak not obvious but water on ground seams to come of plastic tray at back of engine. even if stationary for a day. loss is about 1/4 inch out of header in 24 hrs
some Qs
can i get poly bushes for her anywhere?
she has a slight tappet type noise to her. have taken her to garage and they say this is norm for this engine is this true?
sorry for so many Qs on first visit but i really like the car and wish to get her to her former glory.
thanks in antisipation
Martyn.
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Spannerdemon
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #1 on: Oct 16th, 2006, 7:18pm » |
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Hi Martin:
Welcome to the site. 
As far as your radio goes, if it had the wrong code, then it probably wouldn't work at all, but if you want to send me your radio serial number, (which should be on a sticker on the back of the set), then I have a Ford Radio Coding programme for these sets which will tell me (you) what the correct
code should be. Then you'll know that at least you have the correct code.
Hope you like your car. We love them!! 
If it STILL doesn't work, then check ALL the plugs/aerial going into the rear of the set. There are 5 or 6 (can't remember), and just look closely at the wiring to make sure it's all OK. When you push the radio back in be careful not to trap any of the wiring, as this will cause you problems.
Water. the only "tray" at the back of the engine is the battery cover. if you haven't got a bettery cover, then GET ONE URGENTLY. These cars can have HORRENDOUS electrical problems if the battery is not covered.
It may just be water running off the battery cover, but 1/4" out of the header isn't that serious, so I wouldn't worry about it too much at the moment. Remember this is a big engine.
Just keep your eye on the water hoses, radiator, etc for any obvious leaks. Might be a good idea to just tweak up the hose clips a touch.
These engines can/do sound a little tappety. Quite normal.
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #2 on: Oct 16th, 2006, 7:46pm » |
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welcome martin,what mileage is on the car
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kyanther
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #3 on: Oct 16th, 2006, 8:40pm » |
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hi thanks both milage 85000 on clock. By tray i meant under engine tray and water coming from rear of it.
will get numbers from radio in morning!
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« Reply #4 on: Oct 17th, 2006, 7:55am » |
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Best thing with the tray then is to remove it, and then you'll probably be able to pinpoint your leak more accurately. Remove the tray, and then take your car for a short run to get the cooling system under pressure. Then put a nice piece of hardboard under the engine, and you should be able to find your leak. Hardboard shows up leaks better than paper, which blows around. You can use it as a crawl board too. I keep a 3'x6' piece in the garage just for this sort of work
My guess is, if it's only 1/4" a day, then you either have a pinhole leak in your rad, or you have a loose or leaking hose somewhere. Check the connections to your water pump too. Until you find the source of the leak, keep checking regularly. Sometimes these leaks can take a bit of time to find. Generally, the closer to the engine they are, the more difficult they are to diagnose because in a lot of cases, the water is evaporating away with the heat of the engine before it gets a chance to drip. 
Eventually, you'll find the little sod though!!
I'm around today, so when you send me your s/no, I'll send you the code for your radio.
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #5 on: Oct 17th, 2006, 9:28am » |
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Poly bushes....these people seem to have a few.......
http://www.superflex.co.uk/
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #6 on: Oct 17th, 2006, 11:52am » |
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1/4" in 24HRS
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I would be worried!!
Over what milage? or is that just sitting ...
If it's leaking at the back of the engine then it's most likly a heater hose.
TT
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #7 on: Oct 17th, 2006, 1:29pm » |
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Hi,
When i got my car, there was no cd changer in the boot and the stalk didnt work. Assuming stalk not working because cd not installed. No probs i thought, picked up a s/h cd changer and installed. Powered up fine, but couldnt get the head unit to go to CD mode. Pulled the head unit to find the wire from it to the remote was snipped !! not unplugged, but snipped !!
I assume someone removed the cd changer, was getting error codes, so snipped the wire to get rid of the error code. Finding another loom that matches proved complicated and i have given up whilst fixing more important problems.
PS my head unit has "Faulty" written on the top radio works fine though.....
Hope this helps,
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #8 on: Oct 17th, 2006, 1:31pm » |
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sorry, PS mine is an "M" '95 scorp ultima with 2007 unit as well..... the wire is earth shielded so not just a simple "mend" job".
if you search back about 6 months, you will find my posts and the ever-helpful guys on here showing me the wiring diagram
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #9 on: Oct 17th, 2006, 1:41pm » |
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welcome
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #10 on: Oct 17th, 2006, 6:42pm » |
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Twinturbo.
I said it wasn't too serious........NOT ignore it !!
In fact I have sent a further post specifically to say that he SHOULD try to find the leak.
"Until you find the source of the leak, keep checking regularly. Sometimes these leaks can take a bit of time to find."
In the big scheme of things it's not a 'Niagara' style water loss.
Just trying to help the guy...................
I don't really know what point you were trying to make if I'm honest.
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Baz
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #11 on: Oct 17th, 2006, 7:13pm » |
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If it is a Cossie and with the 85000 I would also be tempted to check for a bulge at the bottom of the radiator which is a common fault among most Cosworths (although not all) you can check from above and usually if you look down the gap between the engine and the radiator, look to one side then the other and you may see two wet patches in line with the bottom corners of the radiator.
Radio code; most people on here have the software to get the codes, I will send you a copy for the early and later radios if you want it
Another possible water leakage position is the hose at the bottom of the thermostat where it goes to the water pump.
Welcome to the forum!!
Baz
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #12 on: Oct 17th, 2006, 8:56pm » |
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If its at the back of the engine, is it the air con? If its clear water then that what it is, If its the same colour as your coolant then you know that its leaking. look for the outlets on the bulkhead.
First time i noticed the water coming out of the air con i nearly had a coronary!!I thought that some thing serious had happened.
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kyanther
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #13 on: Oct 19th, 2006, 1:10pm » |
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thanks all for your help.
i would be greatfull if you could check out may code for me. i have been given some programmes for radio but cant make haed nor tails of them. i've got ford sound 2000 series code decypher 2.00.exe but this asks for a code i dont seam to have. the only other programme that i can get to work FORDM.EXE DIGITAL MALEVOLENCE and gives me the code 4903 that i've been using, but it displays the new style radio head. since getting hold of some pins i have got the radio out, cleaned all conectors etc, but was interested to find it may be a replacement radio (its got jul 00 on it on a 95 car) it is a 2007 unit with rds cd changer control on its face. sticker to top says
END 260 528 DE1 2007 S M963258
SIDE STICKER SAYS
MODEL 2007 SERIAL M963258 PART NO 95GP-18K876-CA
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #14 on: Oct 19th, 2006, 1:43pm » |
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CODE is 4903 for your radio......
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #15 on: Oct 19th, 2006, 1:53pm » |
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thanks Snoopy for that. back to the drawing board. all leads good + conectors clean with good contacts and still cd and stalk not working !!!!!!!!!! think i'm going to have to bin the system and install new!!! didn't want to do that.
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #16 on: Oct 22nd, 2006, 10:16pm » |
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Quote: Twinturbo.
I said it wasn't too serious........NOT ignore it !!
In fact I have sent a further post specifically to say that he SHOULD try to find the leak.
"Until you find the source of the leak, keep checking regularly. Sometimes these leaks can take a bit of time to find."
In the big scheme of things it's not a 'Niagara' style water loss. Wink
Just trying to help the guy...................
I don't really know what point you were trying to make if I'm honest. Huh
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Did I say ignore it.... no...
We don't know how bad this leak is .. He says 1/4" in 24hrs even when stationary..
If it's loosing 1/4" for Zero miles then that's unpreasuired loss. but is there another 1/4" after another 24hrs.
If it looses 1/4" over 1000miles then that's not a huge worry..
If it looses 1/4" every 2 miles then after a twenty mile sprint you have lost a lot more water..
The severity and conditions of the leek need to be clarified.
TT
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Re: radio probs and water leak
« Reply #17 on: Oct 23rd, 2006, 9:04am » |
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Hey Buddy. I'm the most easy going guy you'd ever come to meet.
I'm just trying to help the guy out!! That's ALL I'm trying to do. Just giving him the benefit of my 42 years of car ownership/ mechanical knowledge, including building engines for Perkins Diesel, Re-manufacturing Alternators, starters and dynamos (remember them)?
Building armatures and field coils from scratch, being a service engineer for a major Fork lift company, Oh, and owning
Granadas, Volvos, Jags, a Lotus and MR2, etc etc (which is one hell of a lot)......And I AM an engineer!!
Have a nice day. Sorry if I upset you in some way! 
As far as I am concerned the matter is now closed, and I hope the guy finds the reason for his leak. As always, unless you can SEE the engine concerned, then it's all educated guesswork.
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