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bootiful-scorpios
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2 problems a little help needed
« on: Apr 17th, 2007, 12:02am » |
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today coming home in scorp noticed a very weird noise,
so had a listen once got home,
prob 1, reving engine up seem ok take foot off a kinda metal rattling noise as revs drop
i belive it could be a cat prob?
held a hammer against the casing of the cat and i could feel a vibration coming up the handle of it,
could any one tell me if im right in thinking cat?
prob 2, a rather loud air leak, sound like its coming from under the cosworth cover i remember reading a post somewhere about a t piece under there?
both must have happened at the same time 
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #1 on: Apr 17th, 2007, 12:30am » |
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Hi
Prob 1. With the engine switched of {ex cold} bang on the cat either use yr hand or a rubber hammer. If the cat has broken up you will here it rattling. May be the bolts/bracket has came loose. 
Prob 2. Remove engine cover look at vac pipes to see if anything has come adrift or chaffed through, then start the engine, listen for air leaking. Hopefully its an easy fix
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #2 on: Apr 17th, 2007, 12:35am » |
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ok thank u, will check this tomorrow
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #3 on: Apr 17th, 2007, 8:09am » |
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hi there
if the cat has blocked the exhaust, it cvan blow the 2 egr pipes off, hence the noise. not sure where they are on the 24v, but the other end (the transducer) in on the bulkhead, so follow them down from there.
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #4 on: Apr 17th, 2007, 3:46pm » |
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got the old man to stick his head under car today and he said it is def the near side cat that is rattling
the egr pipes still seem to be connected ..
is it wise not to drive car till i can find a cat? it sounded horrid today when had another listen.
would it be wise to try and get hold of both cats? or just replace the bad 1?
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #5 on: Apr 17th, 2007, 6:03pm » |
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hi there
a scan would show if the other cat was iffy. plus it would show up any fueling issues, etc.
re driving it. it should be ok for a short while. if the cat brick breaks up, it cat block the exhaust, which isn't fun (ask tintin about his)!
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #6 on: Apr 17th, 2007, 6:21pm » |
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 yep, caused all sorts of problems, car lost power, close to overheating once, garage wrote it off !!
i just replaced the pair, figured if one was gone the other wouldnt be far behind
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #7 on: Apr 17th, 2007, 9:36pm » |
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on Apr 17th, 2007, 6:03pm, scorpio_man wrote:hi there
a scan would show if the other cat was iffy. plus it would show up any fueling issues, etc.
re driving it. it should be ok for a short while. if the cat brick breaks up, it cat block the exhaust, which isn't fun (ask tintin about his)!
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yes a scan would be good but i dont think any one in my area have 1, not as far as i know ?
yeah if it do move break up and move down it would be even more of a pain to get out ,
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #8 on: Apr 17th, 2007, 9:38pm » |
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on Apr 17th, 2007, 6:21pm, tintin wrote: yep, caused all sorts of problems, car lost power, close to overheating once, garage wrote it off !!
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hi , where did you get your cats from? rang a few places today to be told there not a listed part 
ford have them but the price is huge!!!
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #9 on: Apr 17th, 2007, 10:14pm » |
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I've heard good things about this lot:
http://www.cats-direct-shop.co.uk
Ceramic approx 65 + VAT, steel 243 + VAT.
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #10 on: Apr 17th, 2007, 10:19pm » |
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yep, thats where i got them from. they are not exactly a pattern fit tho.... so prepare for a fight
but cheap
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #11 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 8:02pm » |
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tintin is the cat good once youve had the fight?
no ive noticed that the prices are way cheaper than other places did yours take long to come down?
dose this mean i need to buy a lambda sensor too?
if so which one would fit our scorp ?  and are the ones from cats direct ok?
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #12 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 8:37pm » |
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Hi,
Didnt fit them myself, but the garage werent smiling when i came back, already agreed fixed price MOT straight after fitting, passed emissions almost perfect.
I knew i had one post cat lambda out, and precat was sluggish, so i bought two new ones asked them to fit them precat, and swap the two working older ones post-cat. unfortunately, they wouldnt fit them, only the ones they supplied, so i have a couple of brand new ones cheap if you need
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #13 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 8:49pm » |
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was it a nation wide branch that you got to fit yours?
thats what ive been doing today and yesterday ringing round different branches of exhaust places in hopes that some where may have one and then i can get it fitted , f1 dont even have our scorps listed as a cat car on there list!
he said he will try and find out more on that and kept asking me what year is the car !
yep i may need to buy them of you i will let you know ..
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #14 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 8:53pm » |
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nah, a local garage, the most respected garage in Edinburgh wouldnt touch the job unless bought proper cats, but put me onto this guy. only had to go back once to that one !!! my best experience with a garage so far
be aware, many places will only fit parts they supply, so if you are going down the cheap/ second hand route, find a garage first
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #15 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 9:02pm » |
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yeah feeling desprate now lol, just want to sort it some how its funny how you soon realise how lovely these cars are again when you start driving something different and it make you also realise the worth of the extra petrol burning up  well worth every penny!!
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #16 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 9:06pm » |
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tell me about it, i went through the same phase, but now its all sorted, and i have a "spare", things are looking up. im really getting to enjoy it
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #17 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 9:14pm » |
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hi there
it's a shame you're not closer to glasgow. i'd get them fitted for £20-£30 a side at one of the places i use sometimes.
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #18 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 9:20pm » |
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on Apr 19th, 2007, 9:14pm, scorpio_man wrote:hi there
it's a shame you're not closer to glasgow. i'd get them fitted for £20-£30 a side at one of the places i use sometimes. |
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 blimey any one nr u want a move to norfolk lol
ive had a offer of a decat ... but not sure what that would do to car in long term.. but would that be a good short term fix or not?
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Re: 2 problems a little help needed
« Reply #19 on: Apr 19th, 2007, 9:23pm » |
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on Apr 19th, 2007, 9:06pm, tintin wrote:| tell me about it, i went through the same phase, but now its all sorted, and i have a "spare", things are looking up. im really getting to enjoy it |
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lol i hope ill say that again soon ...
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