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grandadman
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Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« on: Nov 19th, 2007, 4:28pm » |
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I am thinking about investing some money in a product made by Lucas Oil Products Inc http://www.lucasoil.co.uk/
I think it is called 'Heavy Duty Oil Stabiliser' yanks use the Z here
Anybody help with this
What is the oil capacity of the 24V Cosworth
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #1 on: Nov 19th, 2007, 5:03pm » |
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Grandad. Go to THIS page and look at 'Specifications'. You will see that all other models are listed in the links on the left of the page. When your oil was changed was a genuine or good quality filter used. If they do not have a 'non return valve' this can cause the oil to drain down and thus take longer to reach the vital parts.
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grandadman
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #2 on: Nov 19th, 2007, 6:19pm » |
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have a 'non return valve' this can cause the oil to drain down and thus take longer to reach the vital parts.
Any ideas where you can buy these filters - you sound spot on Simmo with this!
Q: How do you put these hyperlinks in the reply to a posting
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #4 on: Nov 21st, 2007, 3:07am » |
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Actually just about every filter I know of has a non return valve, it is part of a oil filters construction usally.
However some work better than others.
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #5 on: Nov 21st, 2007, 11:08am » |
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I have just ordered a new one from my local Ford man -£5.31 + VAT
I am going to put 4.00 lts of good oil and 0.5 ltr of this lucas oil - I have nothing to lose and all to gain after 178K miles on the clock.
I will report back when the freezing temperatures arrive  ...tomorrow! lol
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #7 on: Nov 23rd, 2007, 1:21pm » |
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That looks good scorpio_man I will buy a 400ml and give it a go!
The rattle was really bad this morning in the 2-3 degs cold.
I was wondering could it be noisy cats [no jokes about moggys please]
Here's a Tommy Cooper one... jus like that!
"So I met the bloke who invented crosswords today. I can't remember
his name, it's P something T something R."  
I 've got loads more 
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #9 on: Nov 23rd, 2007, 2:43pm » |
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do you still get a noise with a warm engine? - NEVER! only low 2-3 oC
didn'nt get it in Sept or Oct  just a slight 1 sec rattle of the chain.
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #10 on: Nov 23rd, 2007, 5:00pm » |
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just used the WOT method to start my bus ...  I'm loving it
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #11 on: Nov 23rd, 2007, 8:26pm » |
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What oil are you using grandadman?
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grandadman
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #12 on: Nov 23rd, 2007, 9:26pm » |
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God knows!! its what was in when I bought the car, 14/09/2007 and which hadn't been looked after by the previous owner , It pretty BLACK!
I have a Ford Oil filter waiting for me at my Ford parts supplier...
What oil would you recommend btw wot does WOT mean
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #13 on: Nov 23rd, 2007, 9:27pm » |
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just sussed it! Wide Open Throttle yeah 
I should read these posts properly not scan read  @
We are into two pages on this subject, so it's a very
popular item
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cuzza
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #14 on: Nov 23rd, 2007, 9:49pm » |
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try,d that WOT jobby on mine and it works a treat ....mine not run that often ,,,,,,,,but it makes you gring when chain rattles , even a bit ....
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #15 on: Nov 23rd, 2007, 9:50pm » |
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cring cring ...i ment cring 
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #16 on: Nov 23rd, 2007, 9:53pm » |
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Is that Cringe
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #17 on: Nov 23rd, 2007, 9:55pm » |
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thats it ...more ringer beer in the glass me thinks
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Dave
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Re: Timing Chain RATTLES like HELL (Cold)
« Reply #18 on: Nov 23rd, 2007, 10:17pm » |
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on Nov 23rd, 2007, 9:26pm, grandadman wrote:God knows!! its what was in when I bought the car, 14/09/2007 and which hadn't been looked after by the previous owner , It pretty BLACK!
I have a Ford Oil filter waiting for me at my Ford parts supplier...
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Well, I would certainly suggest an immediate change if you don't know how long its been in there and what grade/type it is.
To be honest, a 1 second rattle in cold weather is something that could quite probably be cured by using a good oil and genuine Ford filter.
Have a search around the forums but IIRC I have read good things about Castrol oils.
Fully synthetic is recommended for the 24v's, but there are caveats.
For example, a fully synthetic oil will clean an engine out. If an engine has had infrequent oil changes and is a bit dirty inside, switching to fully synthetic may make it leak as it dislodges deposits around gaskets. It could even loosen deposits so they shift to oilways and cause blockages 
My 24v was a case in point so I use a good Castrol oil, but a semi synthetic brew, and change it regularly.
Comma oil is also meant to be very good, 5w30 IIRC.
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