Author |
Topic: Bits in auto-box sump. (Read 1037 times) |
|
Peter.
Newbie
I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 6
|
 |
Bits in auto-box sump.
« on: Apr 6th, 2008, 6:25pm » |
 Quote  Modify
|
Hi everyone, great site you have here.
I found my dad a scorpio last year - a P reg 2.9 12V Ultima, which was very local to me. He has not been well and couldn't drive his manual car, so I talked him into a nice comfy automatic. It was very cheap (£400) so we have no complaints, but he's developed a problem selecting gears. The car was fine to drive originally, except that it would always take 5 seconds or so to select reverse, no big deal we thought at the time. In the past couple of weeks it's becoeme worse and once got stuck in 2nd gear. He was climbing a steep hill and the box wouldn't shift-down so he put it in 2nd on the stick, which it did engage but then once back in drive it stayed in 2nd and he had to drive home in that gear. Since then, the car would not select reverse when hot, but would do so when cold.
Having read through the pages her eI decided to drop the sump off and change the oil. I did this last night, but when I dropped the sump I found these in the pan.
I also found the gauze filter to be damaged as if it had been poked-through.
Since re-filling with oil, the car now will select reverse again when cold but only after waiting 12-15 seconds. Once it selects reverse it will move away smartly enough.
Anybody recognise these tiny parts I found? Could them being missing be the cause for the box not to work properly? Any advice will be highly appreciated before I shell-out for a gearbox that will likely cost more than the car did originally.
Pete.
|
|
 IP Logged |
|
|
|
Tompion
Administrator
1997 2.3 Ultima estate.
Posts: 2932
|
|
Re: Bits in auto-box sump.
« Reply #1 on: Apr 6th, 2008, 7:07pm » |
Quote Modify
|
There are little steel spacers in the cork sump gasket that can stick to the sump instead of coming away with the gasket - that's what they look like.
|
|
IP Logged |
ABS multiplug wheel sensor pins MK IV or MK 20
|
|
|
Simmo
Administrator
I'm an OAP !
Posts: 5508
|
|
Re: Bits in auto-box sump.
« Reply #2 on: Apr 6th, 2008, 7:52pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Have a look at This page and see if that helps. Scroll down to gearbox.
|
|
IP Logged |
Now I'm an OAP
|
|
|
Peter.
Newbie
I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 6
|
|
Re: Bits in auto-box sump.
« Reply #3 on: Apr 6th, 2008, 8:51pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Thanks Simmo and Tompion.
The oil didn't smell unusually bad (certainly nowhere as bad as used EP90). It was a little brown but you could still see the redness in it. I guess the box is on it's way out. Perhaps the oil-change will make it last a few thousand miles more whilst we find a replacement.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
Tompion
Administrator
1997 2.3 Ultima estate.
Posts: 2932
|
|
Re: Bits in auto-box sump.
« Reply #4 on: Apr 6th, 2008, 10:22pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Did you check the filter seated correctly? The original bolt is too long for the new filter and won't tighten the filter up to the O-rings.
|
|
IP Logged |
ABS multiplug wheel sensor pins MK IV or MK 20
|
|
|
Simmo
Administrator
I'm an OAP !
Posts: 5508
|
|
Re: Bits in auto-box sump.
« Reply #5 on: Apr 7th, 2008, 7:02am » |
Quote Modify
|
Are you sure the level is correct?. Did you follow the c
orrect procedure for checking the level after the work?. The details and some other info is HERE
|
|
IP Logged |
Now I'm an OAP
|
|
|
Peter.
Newbie
I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 6
|
|
Re: Bits in auto-box sump.
« Reply #6 on: Apr 7th, 2008, 9:28pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Right I've spoken to him and he's checked the oil after a run, parked on the level with the engine idling and the box in park. He says the oil level is spot-on. It'll still not go into reverse until it's stood around for an hour or more, but does when cold. Another symptom I forgot to mention before was that it will sometimes stall in second when it comes to a standstill. Not that the engine dies-off, it fails to release the load on the box and stalls as if it's a manual coming to a stop without dipping the clutch.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
pete from Hull
Senior Member
Non Scorpio at the moment, but still interested...
Posts: 1365
|
|
Re: Bits in auto-box sump.
« Reply #7 on: Apr 8th, 2008, 9:18am » |
Quote Modify
|
on Apr 6th, 2008, 6:25pm, Peter. wrote:Hi everyone, great site you have here.
Pete. |
|
Pete, Have you been Tangoed?..... 
Pete
|
|
IP Logged |
Bring back fair wages.........
|
|
|
Peter.
Newbie
I'm a YaBB newbie!
Posts: 6
|
|
Re: Bits in auto-box sump.
« Reply #8 on: Apr 9th, 2008, 8:16pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Lets just say I eat a lot of carrots 
Car drives finse now except for the reverse. Using reverse seems to be pressurising the gearbox, as it blows smoke out of the dipstick tube. Still works only when cold 
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
a900one
Full Member
A scorpio is for life not just for christmas
Posts: 980
|
|
Re: Bits in auto-box sump.
« Reply #9 on: Apr 10th, 2008, 9:18pm » |
Quote Modify
|
Could the brake bands need adjusting  .
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
|
Home
Help
Search
Members
Login
Reply
Send Topic
Print